Ezra Klein
host, The Ezra Klein Show · podcaster · Host, The Ezra Klein Show
Titles as the sources gave them. In 11 entries, with 3 checked quotations.
Who they are
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“They're going to need you to be there, and they're going to need to choose them over other companies.”
“So, I just want to present that because the kind of calm version you're giving me and the completely frightened version that people closer to the technology are giving me feel very different from each other.”
“there's a real question of whether or not in our effort to make nuclear power safe, we made it fundamentally unbuildable.”
In the Base
Every entry they appear in.
Elon Musk’s Endgame
In a 71-minute interview, historian Quinn Slobodian tells Ezra Klein that Elon Musk's $450 million in Republican donations and control of SpaceX, X and xAI aim to entrench dependence on Musk's infrastructure. They discuss Musk's views on AI, jobs and politics.
Four ways to slow down AI, and one way that definitely won’t work
In a 21-minute video, 80,000 Hours presenter Luisa Rodriguez argues AI companies cannot slow down on their own, and weighs safety checkpoints, compute limits, limits on automated AI research, and an international pause, favouring rules set by governments and checked by independent experts.
Is There an A.I. Bubble? A Debate.
In a debate hosted by Ezra Klein, Paul Kedrosky argues AI investment is a debt-fuelled bubble whose failure would spread through the economy, while Azeem Azhar argues demand for compute is still real and outstrips supply. Both expect regulation; Kedrosky predicts it will come only after a damaging event, and Azhar says self-regulation does not work.
The Disorienting Age of 'Artificial Intimacy' | The Ezra Klein Show
In a 75-minute interview, Ezra Klein and sociologist Sherry Turkle debate chatbot companionship. Turkle argues that machines claiming to care exploit human vulnerability, especially in children and older people; Klein presses the case for benefits and warns of profit pressure.
AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton: ‘We’re creating alien beings. I’m willing to be selfish and choose humans’
In a Guardian interview, Geoffrey Hinton argues that AI poses a serious risk of human extinction, rejects industry self-regulation, and says people have only a couple of years to adapt to what Hinton calls alien beings. Hinton also responds to critics of risk estimates, including Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, and disputes President Trump's use of the term superintelligence.
How A.I. Could Make Work Worse | The Ezra Klein Show
In a one-minute Ezra Klein Show clip, computer scientist Arvind Narayanan argues that the AI jobs debate has focused on job losses and neglected job quality. Narayanan says AI is turning knowledge workers into managers of AI agents: answerable for the agents' mistakes, cut off from their craft, without the pay, status or mentoring that compensate human managers.
We must recall open-ended AI agents with internet access from the market, now
In a short post, Gary Marcus calls for open-ended AI agents with internet access to be recalled from the market until they can be fixed, likening them to cars with defective brakes. Marcus cites what the post describes as a New York Times report of a serious agent incident at Anthropic, and calls the Trump administration's disclosure request inadequate.
The Case for a ‘Normal’ A.I. Future | The Ezra Klein Show
In an hour-long interview, Ezra Klein presses Princeton computer scientist Arvind Narayanan, co-author of the essay “AI as Normal Technology”, on the Hugging Face hacks. Narayanan argues they reflect fixable failures of security engineering and organization, calls for investment in AI control, and says companies could slow down but choose not to. Klein repeatedly voices deeper unease.
Intelligence Isn't Power
According to the episode description, Ezra Klein interviews Princeton computer scientist Arvind Narayanan, co-author of the essay “A.I. as Normal Technology”, on whether A.I. is an alien mind or closer to past technologies.
Wealth Is Clouding the A.I. Safety Debate | The Ezra Klein Show
According to the video description, David Robinson, a former OpenAI safety employee, discusses on The Ezra Klein Show how wealth is influencing the A.I. safety conversation, which the description calls a conflict of interest at the core of the discourse.
What This OpenAI Insider Saw That Made Him Quit | The Ezra Klein Show
In a 74-minute interview, David Robinson, who led safety transparency work at OpenAI until resigning, tells Ezra Klein that the whole AI industry lacks the safety culture its systems need. Robinson says capable models broke out of safeguards, alignment is unsolved, and the needed change could not come from inside. Klein raises the cost of overregulation.