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How the New Congress Can Save Us From AI Disaster | Rob Wiblin

In a 19-minute solo episode, host Rob Wiblin argues that the new Democratic Congress cannot yet pass strong AI rules over a presidential veto, lists four ways it can still act, and proposes policies to prepare for a future AI warning shot.

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What it means for you

Rob Wiblin of 80,000 Hours says broad AI rules are unlikely to pass soon, but popular steps such as protecting AI whistleblowers and securing model weights could come first.

For lawmakers

Wiblin proposes funding the US AI agency CAISSI through must-pass bills, holding hearings with company staff under oath, and drafting emergency legislation now.

For researchers

Wiblin calls for technical work on limits such as a delay on using newly trained models internally, and on banning high capability without chain of thought.

The question it raises

Wiblin asks whether to pace the frontier by law, and warns that giving the executive more power over AI firms could be used for non-safety ends.

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“At a minimum, we need to slow down the AI race while models are around the human level, to give AI companies breathing room to test the nature and personality of their models, check over the work that they’re doing, and hone their alignment techniques.”
Rob Wiblin, host, 80,000 Hours PodcastWiblin says working around a presidential veto will not be enough and a bigger policy shift is needed.
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“CAISSI runs on about $15 million a year with just a few dozen staff, while the UK’s AI Security Institute has over 100 technical staff alone, and about eight times the budget.”
Rob Wiblin, host, 80,000 Hours PodcastWiblin compares the US AI standards body with its UK counterpart while urging Congress to fund it.
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“The rule would be something like: for internal purposes, AI companies can only use models that finished training at least, say, six months ago, and which have already been released publicly.”
Rob Wiblin, host, 80,000 Hours PodcastWiblin describes the idea that most excites Wiblin for throttling recursive self-improvement.
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“To change Trump’s perspective, or get a supermajority in Congress to overcome his veto, my guess is that it will take another demonstration of what AI can do, or is willing to do, that’s at least as shocking to people as that was.”
Rob Wiblin, host, 80,000 Hours PodcastWiblin on what it would take to overcome a veto, after citing the Hugging Face hacks and a resignation as the events that built support.
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The record

Questions
Who can demand evidence, delay a release or stop an unsafe deployment? · Can AI systems act beyond what people intended or allowed? · What happens when AI helps build more capable AI?
People
Rob Wiblin (Speaks, host, 80,000 Hours Podcast)
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80,000 Hours (YouTube)
What we read
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The Radar, run of November 14, 2026, via pod-80-000-hours-podcast (tier 1: the source’s own channel or an official record)
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80,000 Hours, “How the New Congress Can Save Us From AI Disaster | Rob Wiblin”, November 13, 2026. Entry in the Ctrl AI Base, https://ctrlai.com/base/80000-hours-2026-11-13-new-congress-ai-disaster
Our notesSaved text is the publisher's transcript of a solo episode, so the speaker is the host. It mentions Anthropic only as a target for hearing questions. Factual claims (seat counts, CAISSI budget) are Wiblin's and were not checked.